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12:15 pm: My Savage Breasts
It's official, y'all: my boobs require their own zip code.

There's boob. There's boob-o-rama. And then, apparently, there's me.Collapse )

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From:z_rayne
Date:June 14th, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC)
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I'm currently cheating with a 40DD when I really need a 38DDD, but I like my stretchy knit Just My Size bras and they only go up to DD. Still, my seam is almost flush with my breastbone; it totally is when I'm freshly adjusted and haven't been slouching and typing for a couple of hours. *g*

When I was nursing, though? OMG. 38I. Can you imagine trying to find a nursing bra in 38I? Talk about supported by girders and made of kevlar.... I felt like I was carrying a pair of gallon milk jugs on my chest.

Did the site you went to also explain the lettering thing? Like how DD is actually E and DDD is actually F? Which is unbelievably stupid, but there you go.

BTW, thank you for posting about this, because I've now bookmarked loads of resources.
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 04:58 am (UTC)
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Talk about supported by girders and made of kevlar.... I felt like I was carrying a pair of gallon milk jugs on my chest.

Well, you kind of were.

Did the site you went to also explain the lettering thing? Like how DD is actually E and DDD is actually F? Which is unbelievably stupid, but there you go.

I pretty much had that, but, uh, I still don't get the difference between UK and US, and also some US manufacturers, like Lane Bryant, seem to have different lettering systems than others.

BRAS SHOULD NOT BE THIS COMPLICATED. No wonder nearly every woman in this thread is wearing (or until recently was wearing) the wrong size.

BTW, thank you for posting about this, because I've now bookmarked loads of resources.

It has totally made my day seeing how many fabulous places there are that have stuff for the big-boobied. (And, wow. Sad that I'm this excited over the prospect of a bra that fits. But some of them are pretty, too!)

*excited anyway*
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From:jessicamariek
Date:June 14th, 2006 09:34 pm (UTC)

WORDY MCWORDESON

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You, my friend, rule. (Erm, here from metaquotes, not just some stalker...yeah.)
*glares at own 36DDs*
I was 15 the last time I bought something for these girls that wasn't black, white, or beige. I wanna wear pink frillies again, dammit!
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From:squeeful
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:46 pm (UTC)

Re: WORDY MCWORDESON

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Check out the links in some of the comments. If I can find pink frillies up to a J cup, you can find a world of pretties in DDs.
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From:banshea
Date:June 14th, 2006 09:45 pm (UTC)
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This webcomic is actually a fairly handy resource for big-boobed women. The author's been collecting links to bra sites and boob support communities (er, no pun intended).

Personally, having been the recipient of pet names like "flatchested bitch" and "swizzle stick" during my formative years, I'm now overjoyed to actually have to put effort into bra shopping.

Now, though, my problem is blouses. I'm fairly thin, and with actual tits attached? Either I'm wearing a circus tent or I'm putting on involuntary strip shows every few minutes (that is, until my buttons finally go on strike about a half-hour later).

And I'm going to do my best to avoid getting into the swimsuit rant. Or the cute backless shirt rant. Although I suppose the former could be summarized with the following exchange:

Boyfriend: That's cute, you should get that.
Me: No. I'd break it.
BF: Huh?
Me: I'd break it. I'd put it on, step, bounce, and then it would cry out in pain as the force of my chest causes it to shatter.
BF: Oh. Can I watch?
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From:jacquez
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:52 pm (UTC)
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boobies + blouses = hate.

You can buy from a place like Bravissimo that does cut-to-accommodate-boobs shirts, but even so, for a lot of women, that's not quite enough.

My solution is to wear a snug-fitting stretch camisole underneath a blouse or cardigan, which I button under my boobs (so I don't have to get an XXL to go over them, when my waist/shoulders are a M/L). This gives a v-neck effect on top (making my boobs look a bit smaller) and defines my waist, and no peep shows or tents in sight.
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From:wychwood
Date:June 14th, 2006 09:45 pm (UTC)
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littera_abactor, how are you so awesome? *g*

I had a somewhat similar experience to this a year or so back, when I got myself measured; I'd been wearing, basically, 40B, and was reasonably happy with that. She measured me, however, and announced that I was a 42DD, but I was all "you LIE, creepy bra lady!" and ignored it.

Then I had them measured again, a few months later, and alas, it was true.

Being larger band size, too, means that in my local shops I end up wearing huge giant harnessy things. I do have one bra I adore, which is (I strongly suspect) a maternity bra; it's got, like, side panels, and practically girders, and is the most comfortable support garment I've ever worn. It is about as sexy as a pair of pillowcases (which it closely resembles, in fact), but omg, so nice.

The links here are awesome. I'd looked at Bravissima before, but had trouble finding larger band sizes. The Figleaves site looks like something I must try, however. Next time I can't put the shopping trauma off any longer, at least.
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From:guinevere33
Date:June 15th, 2006 12:23 am (UTC)
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OTOH, sometimes the creepy bra ladies DO lie. When I upgraded from a 36C to a 38C, I found that I was still, ahem, bustin' out. I went home, measured myself (thank you, internet) and decided I was a 36D, and proceeded to buy exceedingly comfortable underwear from Victoria's Secret. A year later I went back for something else and was offered a free measurement. "Sure!" I said, since I figured it couldn't hurt to see if things had changed. The lady promptly declared me a 38C :P
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From:clanwilliam
Date:June 14th, 2006 09:53 pm (UTC)
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I got pointed here by a friend, and boy do I feel your pain.

This is absolutely no use to you, but Selfridges in London is marvellous. First time I got fitted there, I went up three to four cup sizes and down two back sizes - I *screamed* when the woman measuring me told me the size. Then she went out and brought back loads of bras and didn't tell me I was silly when I didn't like some because they weren't pretty. (I'm a G cup too.) The next time I went in, I heard a scream from another dressing room.

"Does that happen much?" I asked.

"At least once a week," I was told.

"Oh good, because I did it last time."

There used to be a fantastic brand called Warners - I think they might still exist in the US - who made really nice bras that fitted beautifully, looked pretty and gave you a good shape. And a properly fitting bra is so much more comfortable - you don't really notice that you're wearing one.

Try a big department store - they might have a decent department. And ignore online fitting calculators - one of them tried to tell me I was a 40AA!
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:12 am (UTC)
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"Oh good, because I did it last time."

That is funny enough to make me want to go to London solely to visit Selfridges.

*thinks*

Well, next time I'm there, I'm definitely going.

And ignore online fitting calculators - one of them tried to tell me I was a 40AA!

One of them told me I was a - well, I forget the band size, but the cup size was C. I was like, "Okay. When I was twelve. Not twelve anymore! And neither are my boobs." But I realized, thanks to the stunning brilliance of jacquez, that it was using the rib cage + five inches method of calculating, because it assumed that we'd be, like, sucking in our gut. (Which leaves me wondering if the women who do that expect to be able to breathe in the resultant bra.) Relaxation is key.
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From:ankhsenet
Date:June 14th, 2006 10:48 pm (UTC)
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I also came here from metaquotes. I am not nearly as large as some of you, and you have my sympathy truely, I couldn't seem to find bras that fit properly. (that sentence structure is off and my brain can't seem to fix it right now....) I got fitted at Victoria's Secret and while the new bras fit better, it still seems to be off some how. I'm not sure how. I also just found out I'm a deep B as opposed to the C that they told me I was at another store.

I have a couple of friends who are as endowed or more endowed than some of you who are of the "needs their own zip code" (one is at LEAST a JJJ) they swear by custom bras. It might be worthwhile to check to see if there is someplace locally that will do custom bras. They are usually not cheap but you can usually choose the fabric you want and most if not all come with a guarantee of work. Just a thought.

I think I'm just going to teach my self how to make my own bras. Then I don't need to deal with some ditzy sales chick trying to figure out my bra size. Also I can get the stupid thing to fit correctly. It may take a long time.

I hate bra shopping.
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:16 am (UTC)
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I got fitted at Victoria's Secret and while the new bras fit better, it still seems to be off some how.

Based on what I've learned in the comments to this post, Victoria's Secret actually doesn't give fittings that are all that accurate. So if things still don't feel right, you might try a big department store or one of the alternate stores listed at the bottom of the page here; they, apparently, can measure you up right.

(Bras = rocket science. I see this now. Except that I actually understand rocket science.)

I think I'm just going to teach my self how to make my own bras. Then I don't need to deal with some ditzy sales chick trying to figure out my bra size. Also I can get the stupid thing to fit correctly. It may take a long time.

That is impressive dedication. (If I tried to make my own bra, it would be a disaster of humorous proportions. Like, I'd end up sewing myself to the couch or something.)

I hate bra shopping.

Oh my yes. There just has to be a better way to do this. But I'm hoping the stores in this comments section are that way.

*head bloody but unbowed*

*or possibly that should be boobs bloody but unbowed*

*whichever*
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From:kassrachel
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:07 pm (UTC)
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Lordy, yes, I feel your pain.

Last spring my mother took me bra-shopping. Which I resisted, but she had just seen Trinny and Susannah (of What Not to Wear fame) on the Today show and she explained to me that my bra was all wrong and that I would be way more comfortable when my breasts were actually suspended in something supportive. And I bitched and moaned, because the bras were hideous, and then I tried one on that...

...

...

...worked. And it was amazing.

So now I wear ugly ugly bras, but on the bright side, my back doesn't hurt like it used to. I hope you can find some consolation in that, too. :-)
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:19 am (UTC)
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You are brave.

But, hey, now that you know your real bra size, you can go to some of the online stores in the comments here and find pretty bras that fit. And then your undergarments will be the talk of the town!

Okay, no. That didn't come out right.

My point is that I now believe prettiness is within the grasp of any bra wearer. Reach out and take it!

And that was scary. I haven't been that peppy and encouraging since, well...ever. Well-fitting bras are clearly a potent drug.
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From:wyldegrey
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:13 pm (UTC)
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I'm here to join in the commiseration party. (Yeay metaquotes!)

I went through your experience about eight months ago. I was wearing D-cup minimizers on my F-cup breasts. (My mother: Wait, did you say you need an F-cup?!?! Me: Yes, F, as in "Fuck! Those are huge!") Let me just say, the new bras were (still are) like a dream come true! And I checked, the one I'm wearing does sit flat against my breastbone. :-)

I got mine from Cacique/Lane Bryant. They carry up to DDD in the Lane Bryant stores, and F-H online, though there aren't as many band sizes available for F-H as there are at Figleaves or some of the other sites here. They aren't necessarily pretty, but they aren't grandmotherly/works of architecture, and they come in colours other than black, white, and beige. I even have a surprisingly supportive deep-plunge, convertable strap one!

I hope you find something pretty and comfy soon!
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From:demented_pants
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:18 pm (UTC)
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Have you checked out their strapless ones yet? I never thought I'd find a strapless bra I wouldn't have to spend my entire life tugging up, but LB had one!
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From:demented_pants
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:16 pm (UTC)
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Now, granted, I have no idea what country you're in, but sometimes Lane Bryant has pretty bras in larger sizes (although, granted, they do tend to lean toward the black/beige/white color scheme, but I have found some pretty ones. It just takes some patience, and I've never tried shopping online). Also, owned by the same company, you might try Fashion Bug Plus. I have this adorable tan and brown lacy bra I found there.

Someone should tell them that larger women don't need padding, though.
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From:demented_pants
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC)
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Incidentally, I SWORE I was a 36C until a friend of mine who used to work at Lane Bryant made me go in for a fitting. Now? I'm anywhere from a 40D to a 42DD, depending on the make of the bra.

There's this one I have, though, whose underwire jabs me in the armpit. I hates it, and I only wear it when all my other bras (all three of them) are dirty.
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From:damned_colonial
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:25 pm (UTC)
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I went bra shopping this week. You probably don't want to hear about this, but I've been shrinking from a 44D to a 38D or thereabouts, so obviously steps had to be taken.

The thing is, I *LOVE* those over-engineered masterpieces! Gimme the ones with four pieces making up the cup, and many hooks, and the wide straps and if possible make 'em longline. They ROCK. They have that whole 40s/50s vibe going for them, and they're kinda retro-elegant, in my opinion anyway.

I'm not much of a girly frilly sorta person so basically all my bras exist in black or white, no lace, no bows, now flowers, no mesh, no nothin'. Except my sports bras, some of which are blue. But do you know how hard that is to shop for? Everything's pink, and padded, and frilly. GRAAH!!! SKUD SMASH!!

One of my favourite bras, alas now outgrown (or outshrunk, as the case may be) was this, in black. Look at it, it's a rocket bra! The fabric isn't even stretchy, it's woven poly/cotton or something. Admittedly I didn't wear it everyday, because it was a bit too pointy, but it looked GREAT with an underbust corset for fetishy events. If that bra existed in a slightly less pointy version, I would *totally* buy it for everyday wear.

The other thing I like about my sensible bras is that they look decent with my sensible knickers. I'm pretty much into the plain cotton jockeys, black or some other dark colour (grey merle is as light as I go, but then I never wear white pants/skirts) and, dammit, if I'm wearing pants with a natural waistline then I'm not ashamed to wear full briefs. (One of the greatest annoyances of the low rise phase of the last few years is that they'll sell low-rise trousers in my size, i.e. lower end of the plus size scale, but hipster undies were harder to find.)

Anyway, perhaps you should just convince yourself you're going for an elegant retro look? Side benefit: you can buy the same model of bra for DECADES while everyone else has to deal with the angst of choosing which frilly red lacy padded thing to buy this time.
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:34 am (UTC)
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One of my favourite bras, alas now outgrown (or outshrunk, as the case may be) was this, in black. Look at it, it's a rocket bra!

Oh my god, that thing is gorgeous. (See, Best Beloved told me that if I actually had the option to buy pretty, colorful, frilly bras, I'd buy two. And then I'd be like, "Well, that was fun, but now it's back to basic black." What gets me is that the pretty colors and things are not even on offer. If they were, I likely would not want them; I'm just contrary that way.

No, really. Insanely contrary. Someday I will write a post explaining how I proved this using the implicit associations test. I'm just...really, really, really difficult.)

The other thing I like about my sensible bras is that they look decent with my sensible knickers.

Ah. Well. See. The thing is, I don't have sensible panties.

I wait to buy panties until they're on sale at Victoria's Secret (I won't buy bras there, but I love the panties), and then I buy whatever colors they have. Which generally means I get the truly hideous ones: bright, searing yellow and purple plaids, enormous sparkly flowers, fluorescent pink paisley. So there's just no chance my bras will ever match my panties. Jesus. I shudder just imagining an expanse of fabric big enough to contain my boobs in some of my panty colors; permanent vision damage would be the inevitable result.

Anyway, perhaps you should just convince yourself you're going for an elegant retro look?

*thoughtful*

That might very well work. Especially as I now know that pretty bras in my size are out there.

That is sage advice indeed.
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From:squeeful
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:26 pm (UTC)
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Where in California are you? (north, south, central?) I have some pretty good places that carry large cups in-store and don't, like, go bug-eyed when you walk in. One of them even has you assigned a saleslady and she goes and brings the bras to you where you then try them on.

Ugh, bra shopping. I was traumatized from the very beginning and it wasn't until a year and a half ago that I was wearing even close to the right size. Right now I'm wearing a 32HH but starting to bulge out of those in places. And my ribcage keeps shrinking. I'm at the "cover my ears and sing 'lalalalalala'"stage because I don't even want to think about trying to bra shop for a 30J+
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:38 am (UTC)
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Where in California are you? (north, south, central?)

Oooo! Advice from a potential local! I'm in southern CA, in that area we like to call "somewhere in here, there's Los Angeles."

I was traumatized from the very beginning

Oh my god, exactly. The first fitting was incredibly awful for me. (I was young! My mother tricked me into going! I didn't want a bra! And the salesladies were...scary. Also very, very grabby.) And since then, I've basically operated on the principle that back pain and boob pain were better than another fitting. But if you can recommend somewhere, um, slightly safer, I could probably go. (For one thing, I'm not 12 anymore. This is key to accepting a bra fitting with dignity, I suspect.)

I'm at the "cover my ears and sing 'lalalalalala'"stage because I don't even want to think about trying to bra shop for a 30J+

*massive sympathy*
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From:tanaise
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:28 pm (UTC)
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The Lands' End bras have reinforced mesh. I'm pretty sure that's what they use when they pour concrete.
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:41 am (UTC)
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*nods sadly*

Yes. When the descriptions no longer talk about "pretty" or "flattering" and instead start using the same terms you read in a civil engineering textbook, you have moved into the Utility Bra Zone.

Why don't they just say "reinforced with titanium and ferro-concrete"? It would be better for us in the long run, I think.
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From:sabrebabe
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:48 pm (UTC)
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Gah! Yep, been there, done that, and slapped the little old ladies silly when they tried to sell me a bra that didn't fit properly because, according to the instructions, I was not really the size I was. Oh, and I needed a $10 contraption to latch in between the hooks to make the bra bigger around my ribs, because obviously, going up on the bra size was a no-no. I held my ground and tried on a lot of bras until I found one I liked, then bought 4 of them.

and of course, as soon as I do, they stop making that bra. And I'm only a 38DD (40DD in the winter).

Fast-forward, my eldest offspring outgrew the "pretty bras" while still in middle school. Unwilling to go to "Granny Bras" in high school, she took to wearing *2* athletic bras at the same time to "keep everything from falling out" (She was a cheerleader all through HS). College came along and I simply gave up and sent her money to go to Victoria's Secret and get some nice looking bras that fit properly. Yep, she's just 20 and into DD's already.

Sad note: A very dear friend of mine has been *begging* her doctor to authorise breast-reduction surgery. She's in terrible pain, takes pain-killers, the whole rigamarole. She's a little thing, just about 5-foot tall. She was properly measured for a bra size that can only be special-ordered by the very rich. 34I. Yes, an *I*! Her doctor "doesn't see anything wrong".

He needs 34I balls to waddle around with for 20 years, unsupported. Then we'll see if there's "anything wrong". >:(
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From:jacquez
Date:June 14th, 2006 11:58 pm (UTC)
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Male rugby coach: OK, 50 pushups!

Me: You ever try doing these with two enormous weights dangling from your chest?

Male rugby coach: ...no.

Me: You should try it.

:)
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From:moon_ferret
Date:June 15th, 2006 01:12 am (UTC)
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brashop.com

It is located in St Louis and is called Ann's Bra Shop. They ship all over and have many lines listed. They also have an 800 number.

Fair warning. The site itself is hideous. I mean bad bad bad bad bad. The pink color that it is makes my teeth hurt. But the store is really cool, they have half sizes for our 12 year old daughters who aren't quite an A yet, but need a 38 since she is built like a linebacker for the Steelers...

They also have an 800 number and a knowledgeable staff. They also do prothetic work for after mastectomies.

Me? Have no idea. I looked down when I read this and realized my bra does not fit. Which means I am not a B but a C. Maybe. I think. Off for the measuring tape I go...
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 08:03 am (UTC)
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You're right, the site is hideous. But there are good bras there, which makes the pain worth it.

Me? Have no idea. I looked down when I read this and realized my bra does not fit. Which means I am not a B but a C. Maybe. I think. Off for the measuring tape I go...

Important tip gleaned from this thread:

Do not add anything to the band size measurement. (Sometimes they'll tell you to add three or five inches.) Just relax - don't suck in your rib cage at all - and then measure.

And, wow. It's amazing how much difference even a better fitting (but still not actually the right size) bra will make. My new bra is too small - and after writing about bras all day, I can really tell - but it's a bigger too small, and that makes a huge difference.

*sighs*

Through this post and the comments to it, I've basically talked myself into going up to the size I so didn't want to. But - bras that fit! It will be worth it, I think.
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From:riah_chan
Date:June 15th, 2006 01:27 am (UTC)
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I completely hear you! One good thing is that you seem to be about the same size (or have not complained about being lopsided.) One of mine is about 1/2 to 3/4 of a cup smaller than the other so if I get a bra that fits one side, the other side is either smooshed or baggy. And pretty bras never fit right. :(
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 15th, 2006 08:09 am (UTC)
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I am definitely lucky in that respect; my boobs are nearly the same size. Because, wow, that would just suck. I mean, my mother had a friend who had different sized feet, and that sucked because she had to buy two pairs of (identical, but different sized) shoes to get one pair that fit. But that really wouldn't work with bras. Huh.

Someone else on this thread talked about bras with removable inserts that you can use to sort of customize your boob size. Maybe it'd work to get one of those and leave the insert out on the bigger side?
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From:laylee
Date:June 15th, 2006 01:29 am (UTC)
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Oh, yeah. Totally evil in a way that really isn't but not if you're anything bigger than a C cup. Mine really aren't that big, 36D or there abouts, but do you think I can find anything nice that fits properly? Women get their boobs artifically inflated to ridiculous sizes all the time, so why is it so hard to find nice bras that fit properly and that don't look like something that a structural engineer has designed?

And why is everything padded these days? The last thing I need is extra padding, but I walk into Bras 'n' Things and all I see is row after row of padding, and most of them ending at a C cup, with a few bigger than a C and not padded, yet at the same time incredibly boring, and obviously made for women of a certain age, bras at the back of the shop.

I want bows and prints and frolicky cotton, but the thing is, when I do find it most of the time they've been made by someone who has obviously never seen boobs bigger than a B in their lives and they just. Don't. Fit. My best fitting bra is my sports bra, which I did endure the indignity of being properly measured for, so...

Um, yeah. Big boobs: good in theory (and the minds of many man) but not so great when you have to live with them on a constant basis for 60 or so years.
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From:mamadeb
Date:June 15th, 2006 02:28 am (UTC)
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I just ran through the measurement thing. The band size is underbreast measurement plus five. 41+5= 46. Fullest part of the breast? 45.

Cup size is 45-46.

Find me a 46 negative. Or a 46AA or 46A. (Actually, I'm currently wearing a 44B. The band is perfectly comfortable, and the cups are NOT empty, but they're not full, either.) My choices in bras tend to be white, and often with features I don't need or want, like underwires or special straps.

I would not trade problems - at the age of 42, I can and have spent entire days braless, even running errands that way, and the bands do give me sufficient support other than for exercise, and any sports bra will do for that (although my choices there are also fairly limited.)
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From:damned_colonial
Date:June 15th, 2006 07:00 am (UTC)
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Mmmm, I just have to pipe up here and say something about going around braless. I'm a D cup as mentioned elsewhere and I'm perfectly comfortable without one, for bumming around the house or walking or whatever. Not so much for running, but for everyday? Sure.

There's some sort of myth that goes around, that only women with smaller breasts can get away with going braless without pain or discomfort. I call bullshit, at least up to D/DD cup. Maybe it's true for some women, or maybe they're just not used to it? I have to admit I've gone braless part time ever since I started wearing them.
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From:3jane
Date:June 15th, 2006 02:36 am (UTC)
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Heya. I wandered in from metaquotes and wanted to give a solidarity wave. I actually had breast reduction surgery a couple of years ago, and it was only after that I realized that the cup seam was supposed to touch my breastbone. It turned out my band size was almost ten (whatever increments they measure by) smaller than I thought it was -- because it was only by wearing a band that size that I could get a bra wrapped around my insane boobs.

Insane, heavy nylon bras with huge straps and construction-work hooks.

I gotta say, getting reduction surgery remains one of my better decisions. I can sit up straight for the first time in my life, and my shoulders don't have shoulder-strap grooves in them. If you have any kind of health coverage (I live in Canada), usually any woman over a C-cup can qualify for medically-mandated reduction (which is covered by insurance). And god knows I'm over a C-cup now, and I'm less than half the size I was before.
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From:damned_colonial
Date:June 15th, 2006 07:02 am (UTC)
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Yeah, the slouch factor is incredible when we have to carry these things around.

I started doing yoga a while back and found I couldn't maintain a basic cross-legged sitting on the floor pose without back pain. The ergnomically recommended seating posture for office work makes me slouch -- I put my chair back further and my feet up, so that the chair supports my upper back.

It's been better since I've been working out more seriously and improving my back strength, but I can't imagine what it would be like if I were a few cup sizes bigger. (I'm a D and have been a DD, as mentioned elsewhere.)
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From:myriad69
Date:June 15th, 2006 03:46 am (UTC)
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When I was young I was skinny skinny skinny... with huge boobs. I was a 34D, which isn't ginormous, but finding a THIRTY-FOUR D was next to impossible. Thirty-six, yes. Thirty-eight, easy-peasy. But 34? Nope.

I had a breast reduction when I was 20, and dropped down to a lovely and wee and AVERAGE 34B. Oh the bras! It was a Bra-Fest! A Bra-nicopia! But over the years the universe has decided that I wasn't meant to be small, so I've gradually gained back boobage. Now, almost twenty years later, I'm back at a D cup, but this time with a 36 chest. And I hate bras again.

Stupid boobs. But this topic does give me a chance to use my breast icon.
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From:lightandashes
Date:June 15th, 2006 08:07 am (UTC)
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Honey, I'm a C cup and *I* can't get a fucking thirty-four!
From:anoneknewmoose
Date:June 15th, 2006 04:13 am (UTC)
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God, I love this post, so so much.

See, I'm bigger than any of my friends (currently wearing a 38DD, but thinking the cup size should be bigger). I'm also a broke ass college student...that rides horses. I shop at Wal-Mart or the sales rack at the mall. Thus, I wear a bra I got on sale for $18 at Penny's, with a cami/shelf bra that's one size too small (which means it stretches out), with a T-shirt on top of that. Add that to jeans, boots, and a riding helmet in the south Texas summer and you want to die.

But, yeah, after this post? Totally going to Lane Bryant this weekend when I go into Houston and getting a fitting. I don't mind dropping cash on a bra if it actually fits and is comfortable.

(I do feel proud of myself I knew about the breastbone thing, though. A friend of mine is an ex-Vicky's Secret fitter and gave a bunch of us bra tips a while back, which helped a LOT.)
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From:squeeful
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:54 am (UTC)
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Because I'm a shameless enabler and I like to help on the bra front, behold the Shock Absorber. Expeeeensive, but no wobble!
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From:m2wild
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:14 am (UTC)

Only place...

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This is the only place that I have found that carries comfortable and somewhat cute bras in REAL SIZES. They go from 32A to a 56F. http://www.biggerbras.com/
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From:thefourthvine
Date:June 16th, 2006 08:07 am (UTC)

Re: Only place...

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*beams*

Thank you! And, holy shit, they have a huge range. I get an extreme and perverse satisfaction from being almost smack in the middle of their drop-down menu.

(Also: horse icon yay!)
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From:robling_t
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:30 am (UTC)
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Hm, I was just thinking the other day that Whomper and Misabel didn't seem too happy in the sports bra lately, I'll have to check out some of these links to see if maybe it's not a back-fat issue...
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 16th, 2006 08:11 am (UTC)
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Okay, I've met women who named their boobs (I'm tending toward Gargantua and Pantagruel, myself), but never before have I encountered such excellent names. So: Hi, robling_t! Hi, Whomper! Hi, Misabel!

That helps with the zip code thing, too, because - well, of course they need their own seat on an airplane. They're two whole other entities. (And now I want a t-shirt that says: "My boobs are entities unto themselves.)

And, yeah, measure really well (and ignore all online calculators and anywhere that tells you to add anything; just measure with your rib cage relaxed). Well fitting bras are apparently a bona fide miracle. Rare enough to be, anyway.
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From:hopefulnebula
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:34 am (UTC)
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"If your cup seam doesn't lie flat against your breastbone, you need to go up in cup size."

Huh. Even for sports bras?
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From:damned_colonial
Date:June 15th, 2006 07:05 am (UTC)
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I think that rule applies primarily to underwire bras or to others that are cut with distinct cups.
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From:liberationparty
Date:June 15th, 2006 05:45 am (UTC)

next person to say "hooray for boobies" gets a boot up their ass

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(Here via MetaQuotes.)

At a party recently, a guy commented on my "suspension bridges" and then had the nerve to attempt to get my phone number. Fuck boob men. Fuck them with hunting knives and twelve-inch dildos. Perhaps I can sculpt one out of underwire.

(I hate bra shopping too.)
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 16th, 2006 08:19 am (UTC)

Re: next person to say "hooray for boobies" gets a boot up their ass

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Well, if you ever decide to go the underwire sculpting route, I've got a few dozen I could throw in. (That's how my bras break. Inevitably. The underwire turns into the Stabbing Poking Barb of OW OW OW.)

And, yeah, sounds like the guy who hit on you was class central. Come on, boob men! It's an official rule: you either get to make remarks about Boobzilla or you get a chance for a phone number. Not both.

(I totally hear you on the bra shopping - obviously - and, seriously. Check out the links in the comments here. Figleaves.com and barenecessities.com and so on don't have horrible sales staff, and they aren't candy colored. And even if they were, well, it's only your monitor, not everything. Online shopping is the closest thing to painless shopping out there. *proselytizes and testifies*)
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From:supersyncspaz7
Date:June 15th, 2006 06:06 am (UTC)
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oh, I feel your pain.

I have the misfourtune (well, to me, anyway) of coming from a family of well-endowed women. I was probably the first girl in my grade to even wear a bra. For the longest time in high school, I was convinced I was a 40D, and while I was none too pleased with it, I lived with it. Then I needed a new bra for prom, so I got measured at Lane Bryant and was told I needed a 40DD. I gritted my teeth and bought the bra anyway. Then a few weeks ago, I stop at JC Penney to pick up some bras and I get measured by this really nice Indian lady, and she says, "42DD," and the first thing out of my mouth was, "Oh, I hate bra shopping." I've actually begged my boobs to stop growing--and I'm already twenty, so it's not like I can do anything about it, short of surgery. [cries]
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From:littera_abactor
Date:June 16th, 2006 08:23 am (UTC)
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I have the misfourtune (well, to me, anyway) of coming from a family of well-endowed women.

You have my sympathy. I'm bitter because - okay. My mother's side contains women with smaller breasts - B cup is average. My father's side is full of women who wore maternity bras well into their eighties. And guess what? My sister got the small boobs - she was smaller when she was nursing than I am now - and I got the Milwaukee Boob Festival.

I was probably the first girl in my grade to even wear a bra.

Oh, god. That is misfortune indeed. There is no joy in being an early adopter of big boobs.

"Oh, I hate bra shopping."

*cries right along with you*

I hate it, too. And, well, I hear you on the begging them to stop growing, thing, but so far it hasn't worked for me.

*massive sympathy*

*fist of breast solidarity*
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